SSL 4000 G presets til Logic 8 compressor (download)
SSL 4000 G presets til Logic 8 compressor (download)
SSL 4000 G master bus compressor
emulation presets for Logic Pro 8 Compressor
Legal
These emulation presets are ©2008 Holger Lagerfeldt for Popmusic.dk
and are not endorsed by either Apple, Waves or Solid State Logic.
Download and Installation
http://www.popmusic.dk/links.html
Install the folder entitled SSL 4000 G master compressor here:
Mac HD>Users>YourUserName>Library>Application Support>Logic>Plug-In Setting>Compressor
These presets will not work or sound correct in Logic 7.
Sound example
http://www.popmusic.dk/download/logic/s ... ofiles.zip
How To Use
The SSL comp is intended as a master mix compressor on the main bus or on sub mixes, i.e. a sub mix of drums.
The SSL comp is not a real mastering compressor. It is often used during mixing for subtle (or not so subtle) glue effect.
You can use it as part of a mastering chain but rarely as the only master compressor, and usually then as the first compressor in the chain.
Quick tip: Gentle compression
For gentle glue type compression, choose a Ratio 2 or 4 preset, and set threshold for a maximum of 1-2 dB of gain reduction on the meter.
Quick tip: Pumping and punch
For less pumping or more punch select a slower Attack of 3, 10 or 30 ms, and a release between .3 s and 1.2 seconds.
The Good
All possible ratio, attack and release/auto combinations are included, apart from the exceptions below.
Preset default settings closely emulate the default settings of the Waves SLL G-master compressor, which means you can do quick A/B comparisons.
The Bad
· Auto release. There’s no way to get the true sound of the SSL auto release in the Logic Compressor.
· 0.1 ms attack setting is not possible in the Logic Pro compressor. Closest setting is 0 ms which pumps excessively. Not a big loss though IMO.
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Geek Stuff
The presets have been made using real life material and test tones. Levels generally match Waves SSL default settings within 0.2 dB.
In some cases the numerical values are not the same as they appear on the Waves SSL, such as ratio 4:1 being 3.7:1 in Logic. This is not an error.
Please notice that knee and threshold default settings vary depending on ratio, just like the Waves SSL does (behind the scenes).
The extended parameters of the Logic Compressor enables the internal EQ sidechain for a gentle 60 Hz hi pass filter for closer low end emulation.
A frequency analyzer will show very little difference between the plug-ins:
Purple color: Waves SSL · Orange color: Logic Compressor
Looking at the waveforms for transient changes, there is generally speaking a strong similarity between the two waveforms, and transients are quite similar too:
Upper waveform: Waves SSL · Bottom waveform: Logic Compressor
This doesn’t necessarily mean your ears will agree but the presets are fairly close despite using a bundled sequencer compressor.
Happy compressing.
emulation presets for Logic Pro 8 Compressor
Legal
These emulation presets are ©2008 Holger Lagerfeldt for Popmusic.dk
and are not endorsed by either Apple, Waves or Solid State Logic.
Download and Installation
http://www.popmusic.dk/links.html
Install the folder entitled SSL 4000 G master compressor here:
Mac HD>Users>YourUserName>Library>Application Support>Logic>Plug-In Setting>Compressor
These presets will not work or sound correct in Logic 7.
Sound example
http://www.popmusic.dk/download/logic/s ... ofiles.zip
How To Use
The SSL comp is intended as a master mix compressor on the main bus or on sub mixes, i.e. a sub mix of drums.
The SSL comp is not a real mastering compressor. It is often used during mixing for subtle (or not so subtle) glue effect.
You can use it as part of a mastering chain but rarely as the only master compressor, and usually then as the first compressor in the chain.
Quick tip: Gentle compression
For gentle glue type compression, choose a Ratio 2 or 4 preset, and set threshold for a maximum of 1-2 dB of gain reduction on the meter.
Quick tip: Pumping and punch
For less pumping or more punch select a slower Attack of 3, 10 or 30 ms, and a release between .3 s and 1.2 seconds.
The Good
All possible ratio, attack and release/auto combinations are included, apart from the exceptions below.
Preset default settings closely emulate the default settings of the Waves SLL G-master compressor, which means you can do quick A/B comparisons.
The Bad
· Auto release. There’s no way to get the true sound of the SSL auto release in the Logic Compressor.
· 0.1 ms attack setting is not possible in the Logic Pro compressor. Closest setting is 0 ms which pumps excessively. Not a big loss though IMO.
-
Geek Stuff
The presets have been made using real life material and test tones. Levels generally match Waves SSL default settings within 0.2 dB.
In some cases the numerical values are not the same as they appear on the Waves SSL, such as ratio 4:1 being 3.7:1 in Logic. This is not an error.
Please notice that knee and threshold default settings vary depending on ratio, just like the Waves SSL does (behind the scenes).
The extended parameters of the Logic Compressor enables the internal EQ sidechain for a gentle 60 Hz hi pass filter for closer low end emulation.
A frequency analyzer will show very little difference between the plug-ins:
Purple color: Waves SSL · Orange color: Logic Compressor
Looking at the waveforms for transient changes, there is generally speaking a strong similarity between the two waveforms, and transients are quite similar too:
Upper waveform: Waves SSL · Bottom waveform: Logic Compressor
This doesn’t necessarily mean your ears will agree but the presets are fairly close despite using a bundled sequencer compressor.
Happy compressing.
Ja det er syret Holger
Men kommer det til at virke i praksis
Saa snart materialet er et andet saa reagerer compen vel osse anderledes en SSL compen ville ha gjort?
Men kommer det til at virke i praksis
Saa snart materialet er et andet saa reagerer compen vel osse anderledes en SSL compen ville ha gjort?
Næh, ideen er jo at den netop lyder som SSL'en, så godt som muligt. Det betyder at det er lige meget hvad du kommer igennem, så lyder den i teorien som SSL'en.Vagn Hollund skrev:Ja det er syret Holger
Men kommer det til at virke i praksis
Saa snart materialet er et andet saa reagerer compen vel osse anderledes en SSL compen ville ha gjort?
Har testet med rock, dance og lidt forskelligt - samt selvfølgelig testtoner og udfasning.
Ok, det lyder lovende, det glaeder jeg mig til at preove af
Mange tak skal du ha Holger
Mange tak skal du ha Holger
Aargghh - det er jo vildt - tænk sig, hvis der fulgte noget så godt med Cubase
Anders Østerby [cand.mag. i musikvidenskab og dansk]
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Synes også det er blevet godt. MEN jeg ville vælge Waves SSL'en hvis alt andet var lige (=penge), den er stadig lige 10% bedre til at lyde som SSL.
Jeg er bare chokeret over at der ikke er større forskel trods alt, men tit betaler man jo netop for de sidste 10%.
Jeg er bare chokeret over at der ikke er større forskel trods alt, men tit betaler man jo netop for de sidste 10%.
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Det er sgu cool! Har allerede lagt det ind..
... uhhh, bemærkede også lige det fede track du har valgt til testen He he
... uhhh, bemærkede også lige det fede track du har valgt til testen He he
Daniel B. skrev:Det er sgu cool! Har allerede lagt det ind..
... uhhh, bemærkede også lige det fede track du har valgt til testen He he
Jeg synes nu stadigvaek der er en betydelig forskel paa testfilerne
specielt hvis man lytter til synthmellemtone-bassen hvor SSL 'en er lidt mere sammenhaengene og sproed
Men ok det er positivt overaskende hvor godt Logiccompen lyder..eller kan lyde for man skal jo stadigvaek tweake en del for at finde de steder hvor den lyder rigtigt godt
Nu er vi saa hjulpet godt paa vej
specielt hvis man lytter til synthmellemtone-bassen hvor SSL 'en er lidt mere sammenhaengene og sproed
Men ok det er positivt overaskende hvor godt Logiccompen lyder..eller kan lyde for man skal jo stadigvaek tweake en del for at finde de steder hvor den lyder rigtigt godt
Nu er vi saa hjulpet godt paa vej
- Jens Ledet
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øv man ikke kan få den til logic 5.5.1 og pc GRRRRRRR
Nej fedt at du nørder på den måde Holger, det siger lidt om dig og hvad du vil prøve at have ud af tingene.
Vh jens
Nej fedt at du nørder på den måde Holger, det siger lidt om dig og hvad du vil prøve at have ud af tingene.
Vh jens
Mvh Jens
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Tak, og sorry nej. Logic 5.5 comp har ikke VCA mode, ej heller intern sidechain EQ.. og attack algoritmen er lavet marginalt om.
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Ja ved det godt.. den er nemlig ret skidt... i 5.5.1 øvøv..
Mvh Jens
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Well, du har jo 2 x G SSL, så ingen grund til at klage
- Jens Ledet
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NAAARJ var heller ikke derfor. ville bare gerne kunne høre den og pille i den.
Mvh Jens
Nu med en otari mtr 90 i studiet
Nu med en otari mtr 90 i studiet